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Hubris

In ethics, fideism, van til on 30/08/2011 at 12:57 pm

For the life of me, I cannot understand the attitude of Robert Sungenis, as seen in the following quote from the LA Times. The pure inanity of Sungenis, the hubris, the fantastic will to impose his cognitive state onto the world without understanding the possibility of just being flat-out wrong.

“Heliocentrism becomes dangerous if it is being propped up as the true system when, in fact, it is a false system,” said Robert Sungenis, leader of a budding movement to get scientists to reconsider. “False information leads to false ideas, and false ideas lead to illicit and immoral actions — thus the state of the world today.… Prior to Galileo, the church was in full command of the world, and governments and academia were subservient to her.” (A few Catholics still insist Galileo was wrong)

Frankly, Sungenis is an intellectual and cultural fascist. Read some of his work if you don’t believe me. This website too examines his behavior when confronted with criticism, specifically on his anti-Semitic drivel. Even in the above quote, he publicly yearns for the time when the Catholic church governed most of the world. Who could dare say such a thing with a straight face? Is he not aware how appalling such a wish sounds to anyone versed in the history of the Church? The genocide of the Americas, burning of Bruno, pacts with Hitler and Mussolini, and the perpetuation of the lie about the Jews should give anyone a moment’s pause. All dissent would, presumably, be quieted in any way necessary, be it house-arrest, murder, and restricting information or literacy only to the priestly elite.

Since it is obvious (at leas to Sungenis) that he is good — for we all see ourselves as good — it follows that he does not and cannot possibly err. If others have differing theories, this indicates that they are mistaken, and since they cannot see the manifest truth, since “false ideas lead to illicit and immoral actions”, they are therefore evil. Would that there were someone to rid Sungenis of those pesky scientists? Putting these moral conundrums about legislating the truth aside for the moment, his assumption — in much the same way Van Til and other presuppositionalists have in the past — that error is a sign of immorality reveals Sungenis to be closed off from any sort of honest discussion. He cares not about the journey towards the truth, a journey that is forever covered in fog, always down dead-ends and winding labyrinths; he cares only about defending the faith, about crossing his arms and refusing to acknowledge anyone else as even being a moral equal, much less the possibility of them being right.

It doesn’t help that Sungenis is an ignorant creationist. The following video is pure lunacy.

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  1. To be fair, it’s worth noting that Sungenis’ bishop forced him to stop using the name “Catholic” for his group. The Catholic Church doesn’t want anything to do with this kind of extremism and kookiness. He’s out on his own.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Sungenis

    • Dale,

      I dislike the Catholic Church’s epistemological framework and their stances on many social issues, but at least they’re willing to change, albeit the change is often as slow as a glacier. It says a lot when the Catholic Church thinks someone is too extreme for them!

  2. I do not see any rational critique of R. Sungenis’ arguments in this article, just ad hominem attacks and prejudice. The Catholic Church does not have an offical position on Sungenis. One bishop’s personal conflict with Sungenis is not an official position of the Church. The Church has left certain theological questions open to debate, such as creationism and geocentrism, and Sungenis is simply exercising his right as a Catholic layman to enter the fray and offer his arguments. Try reading his material and offering your readers an intelligent critique of his arguments rather than just parroting false accusations against the man. Calling someone ignorant and his arguments lunacy does not constitute a rebuttal and shows who is truly on his moral high horse in this debate.

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